We're proud to announce the beta release of Tangerine, our third application. Tangerine lets you easily create playlists with upbeat music, or playlists for relaxing. It does that by analyzing the BPM and beat intensity of the songs in your iTunes library. As mentioned in the previous post, it analyzes the songs blazingly fast to the tune of more than 3 per second (on an 1.83 Ghz Core Duo iMac). The amazing thing is that just copying those files actually takes longer on my iMac.
We came up with the idea after I noticed that I was spending a good 30 minutes to come up with about 30 tracks for working out. I would repeat the process fairly often and I was getting tired of it and tired of listening to the same songs over and over again. So we developed Tangerine to automate that process. The app should pay for itself for some people. It should be really handy for Nike+ users and if you're not, this app may motivate you to get one because there's nothing like running to the beat of the music to keep you motivated.
You can get the beta through the download link below. If you send us a useful bug report (bugs@potionfactory.com) we will give you a license as a thank you when the app ships. If you blog about our little baby we will also give you a license as a little thank you.
Update:
Wow, we just posted the beta on the blog without having anything else ready in the hopes that not too many people will see it. But I guess it's too late for that now. A lot of you seem to be having problems loading up the iTunes library. We are working to improve this, so if it doesn't work for you, please be patient. Now, some clarifications that were sorely missing in the original post: Tangerine is Tiger only and it cannot (at least not yet) analyze iTunes purchased tracks due to the DRM.
Thank you all for the enthusiastic response. We appreciate each and every one of your comments!
Update 2:
Tangerine! 1.0 has shipped and the free license promotion is over.
Comments
wow...just downloaded this and it looks awesome guys. Could possibly change some aspect to the way I listen to music..and perhaps...save time creating custom playlists. Very well thought out. Does it work with the iPod as well? If not...that would be a awesome feature to have.
Exactly what I was searching for! I am a part time DJ and I have been trying to find an automatic bpm reader that works well. Thanks for putting this software out! Its also really nice to have the ability to create auto playlists by bpm!
Hi Chris, Thank you so much for the encouragement. Tangerine doesn't directly sync with the iPod, but it does save the playlist to iTunes when you click the Save button. So rest assured that you will be able to take those playlists on the go.
Wow! Great idea guys! I shall be downloading this as soon as I get home from work. :)
And I LOVE that cute little logo :D
Andy. I guess what I mean is.... I have only half my iPod library on my machine...the other half are ripped CDs and I do not keep them on my computer just for the sake of saving room. It's be cool if it could search a iPod, analyze that and create playlists. Just a thought. Also....what does is Playlist duration and Generation Pattern. I sorta don't get that. Thanks.
looking forward to using this. also, nice led zeppelin-ish name...
[...] Tangerine has a very clear primary goal: analyzing your music’s beats per minute (rhythmic speed) and intensity. And it achieves this goal with splendor. I love how, upon launching the application for the first time, it doesn’t waste any time asking me whether I want to analyze my music, it just gets to work. [...]
Just tried this little app, but it does not find any songs in my library. While I do have about 161 songs on my PowerBook. (The rest is on my other system.) Nothing strange just a default iTunes (7.0.1) install with everything on the places where it should be. All songs in library are from the store though.
Any thoughts on this? I like the look and feel of your app and would like to give it a proper little spin.
Does not work: launches. Pretends to do something. Then behaves as if I had no song (instead of 5904) in my library. I tried disabling the "default rule". Nothing. (MBP intel 10.4.8 french).
Looks good!
For those of you interested, this version of the beta seems to automatically grab all songs (not podcasts) between 1:00 and 15:00 in length from your iTunes library and analyze them. On my 2ghz Macbook, it looks like it's taking about 30 minutes to analyze 3850 songs weighing in at 19.44gb.
To the devs, for future betas you might not want to start analysis on launch - I wanted to poke around and set up prefs before analyzing. :)
Congratulations on the beta, I'm very impressed with what I have seen so far. I am one of those people who is terrible at creating "mood" playlists, so I can't wait to try it once it finishes analyzing my library. By the way, I love the orange - maybe Apple should replace Aqua with Tangerine for 10.5? ;)
Very cool looking, and analysis is nice and fast.
Unfortunately, it's crashed a couple times so far while chewing through my library. I've emailed you crashlogs and a description of what I was doing – is there any crash / iTunes information that'd be especially useful for people to provide you with?
Neat! Maybe I'll finally be able to fulfill my dream of being an MP3-based DJ...(or maybe not, but hey).
[...] If you are a Mac user, check out Tangerine, a beta app from the Potion Factory (sounds like something out of Harry Potter, right?). By going through your iTunes music library and analyzing all of the songs to determine their BPM (beats per minute) and beat intensity, Tangerine hopes to simplify the creation of playlists for all your different moods. This is something that I am notoriously bad at. And even if you have meticulously organized playlists, you’ve gotta love the orange theme that this app is built around. [...]
one song has 54683 beats and the app keeps on crashing
nice interface though
great app! thanks
I was looking for something just like this. I'll try it as soon as I get home. Idea: maybe it could set the songs star rating according to it's intensity. One star for relaxed, 5 stars for frenetic, etc.
ps - I'm always interested in BPM software. Would you guys like to share your BPM detection algorithms? :)
Nice! I've been wondering when something like this would come out. Checking it out now, and will spread the word about it on the blog.
f**king brilliant guys :)
amazing app
Hey Hey
We got a beautiful About Window now :)
Well played, its looking good so far
One critique though, not so excited about the custom control buttons on the buttom. I sure you'll give them some more polish by beta end. They're looking very Weby at the min.
I always shit myself when I see you got a new app out, you are true stars of the mac world now. Keeps them coming.
blogged it!
looks juicy. it'll come in handy for my own personal use, but i think some of my DJ friends might like it too....
I don't know why that hasn't been thought of before. Thanks.
Oh man oh man... I have been waiting for an app like this forever. Thank you thank you.
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This is a beautifully designed program. Snaps to the engineers.
Will this work on < 10.4 ?
This would be really cool to show off at work, where 10.4 is still not used.
I wanted to test it but when i launched it, it didn't find any tracks whereas my itunes library is full of music. What's the matter ? Is there a specific location for the tracks ?
How can I do to test this app ?
Thanks
Also when your using control buttons. It would be nice it would automatic scoll the artwork panel instead of manually doing it, if you know what I mean
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i love the playlist window. i'm not sure about how useful the analysis is though. Is "Boxing" by Ben Folds Five really all that "upbeat"? And Made for TV Movie by Pulp? Apparantly they are, but i can't imagine either on a workout list with the rest of the songs in that BPM & beat intensity range (178/36 & 179/40). Maybe I don't understand the relationship between those numbers.
is BPM supposed to be higher for upbeat songs? if so, why is 'mis-shapes' (again, a Pulp song) only 74 (though it has a 75 Intensity)? It's much more upbeat than any of the songs with high BPM & intensity #s.
Anyway. Maybe I just need an explanation of what these numbers really mean.
Great looking application!
[...] So, I’ve downloaded and installed Tangerine. So far, it seems ok. It doesn’t seem to have done a bad job of setting the bpm, though granted, I didn’t check many yet. Annoying thing is that I can’t seem to make a playlist. It gives me the dialog to, but then doesn’t seem to actually be creating anything. I will have to look into it. It seems to work for Otto ok, although I think it’s crashed on him a bit, but he’s tried to do more than I have. I’ll give it a bit before saying yea or nay. At least it has set my bpm, which is niceish. Now if it would just make the playlist so I can test how useful it is to actually have. [...]
Tangerine for iTunes BPM Analysis and Mixing...
Like many, I've not cared about the "beats per minute" thing in iTunes largely because I didn't want to go back and enter all the crap in myself. A new app, Tangerine, will do this for you. It will also......
Tangerine ignores my iTunes files completely, no matter what I do it just doesnt find them. Am I doing something wrong?
can you give us any suggestions for how to use the data the app comes up with? is it as simple as, the lower the BPMs, the more appropriate that song is for napping to; and the higher the BPMs, the more likely it is to be a good workout song? is that it? what about beat intensity? how can that help me?
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Wow! Fast! Nice use of multiple threads. I have a Quad core 3 GHz MacPro and It is balancing across the Cores evenly. Not to mention the fact that I have a rather massive MP3 selection (160 GB) THis is going to be a lot of fun and very useful for loading my iPod. I will be making sure to post about this so all my friends can give it a try.
I love the idea but for some reason, of the 8000 tracks on my iTunes only 10 have any data in the BPM field so this app is no use to me.
Hi there,
hate to spoil the good vibes in here, but somehow a little bit of info would be helphull, even in beta.
I downloaded it, dragged it into my Applicationsfolder, started it, and watched a small dialog window, telling me it will start analyzing my songs. The spinning tangerine would tell me more about te progress. It spinned for like one second en boem, it was done. No songs appear however in the library on top. I Reloaded my iTunes songs, did a new analysing job, nada.
Did I miss something? Do I have to drag al my songs manually in? Cause that's like 2000 songs ... :s
I saw this app mentioned on TUAW and knew instantly that it was the thing I was looking for ever since I installed my first iTunes.
I run a powerMac G5 2.7 dual, plenty of rams, and OS 10.4.8 and iTunes 7.0.1, if that matters ...
Im loving it!
I have only just started my blog, but I have written about it on there, and will be letting everybody I know all about it. Im a sys admin of a couple of hundred macs at a college, and it may even be useful for some of our studnets, we shall see. Looking good so far, looking forward to 1.0!
PS, a serial for the final realese would be cool if its not too cheeky.
Its awesome.
I already thought about a similar app but this is better =D
Could this app update the ID3 BPM tag in iTunes?
Otherwise an excellent app!
A good looking and useful app! The last time I attemped to calculate the BPM on my music in iTunes with some utility program, I had to tap the spacebar to the beat. Oh, that was fun...I did about 20 songs and went back to wishing for something better to come along...and here you are.
Thanks, and much success to you.
Chris Baker,
I just downloaded the app and ran it. It does work with CDs that have been ripped versus downloaded iTunes music. I ran it on my new MacBook, which only has about 50 songs in my library, and it took roughly 5 seconds. It was done before I had a chance to scroll to Panic!At The Disco (which is the only ripped CD). I am very excited to go home and download this to my iMac. I wonder how long it will take to get through my 5,000+ song library...
Kudos to Potion Factory! Wonderful idea!
Nevermind. I didn't see that in the file menu at first.
Does this analyze purchased songs, it doesn't seem to. It also plays music weird, I can't quite put my finger on it but it seems like an EQ problem.
I sent a TrackBack from my blog (not sure where they'd appear), but I wanted to report on the progress. I have a Mac Pro, dual 3 GHz, and I'm about 1/3 of the way through analyzing 8969 tracks. I have "About 1 hour, 12 minutes remaining."
Ouch. But I'll live. I'll just... go get dinner or something.
Tangerine is, dare I say it, sexier than Voice Candy. Possibly even sexier than the sexiest app ever, Delicious Library.
(Also, I blogged about this, but the damn trackback on my site won't work. Link is in the website field)
Great app - but didn't seem to work for me. My iTunes library is stored on a NAS that's mounted via AFP - Tangerine set all of my BPMs to -1. Any ideas?
No DRM? I guess doing this kind of work requires being able to read the file. However, half of my library is DRM. This makes me sad.
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